Lead Acetate + Ammonium Sulfate
| Author: | Subject area: Lead sulfate and NH4CH3COO | |
| guy International Hazard Posts: 982 Mood: Catalytic! | ||
| Lead sulfate and NH4CH3COO How does ammonium acetate dissolve lead sulfate? The simply affair that makes sense is that acetate would complex with it. | ||
| chemoleo Biochemicus Energeticus Posts: 3005 Mood: crystalline | ||
| lead sulfate --> lead ammonium sulfate --> lead ammonium acetate? Never Stop to Begin, and Never Begin to Terminate... | ||
| guy International Take a chance Posts: 982 Mood: Catalytic! | ||
| Exercise double salts increase solubility? I've seen them decrease solubilities. I don't know much about the chemistry of double or triple salts, they seem actually interesting. I saw an example of K2CuPb(NO2)6 precipitating and that got me wondering about how they piece of work. Edit: PbSO4(due south) + 2CH3CO2-(aq) <==> Lead(CH3CO2)2(aq) + SO42-(aq) Does this mean atomic number 82 acetate is a covalent molecule? Atomic number 82 is has a high electronegativity for a metal and so information technology would probably exist a covalent complex which is soluble. [Edited on 8/4/2006 by guy] | ||
| chemoleo Biochemicus Energeticus Posts: 3005 Mood: crystalline | ||
| >Do double salts increase solubility? I've seen them decrease solubilities. A prominent case is NiSO4 and K2SO4, both are reasonably soluble, and the double salt precipitates if you lot mix saturated solutions of both. There are many other examples. Increased solubility - why would that be conceptually impossible? I don't retrieve examples but I dont see why not. Ammonium ions are very well capable of solubilising ions. Didnt you do this experiment of Cu solubilisation in the presence of ammonia/ammonium sulfate and O2 yourself, while this doesnt piece of work well without ammonia? I call up it's a similar principle. The principle of double salts is easy once you get your head around it. Simply think of the divalent anion SO4(two-) equally a span. And then yous essentially make it the case of Ni-M sulphate: K-Ni-SO4-Ni-K or in the case of potassium alum K-SO4-Al=SO4 This is why they have properties, their are essentially ionic mixes with unlike connectivities. In the case of the pb salts - you could fifty-fifty see mixed ionic 'polymers' forming...yet, they arent double salts, they are complexed salts, which is a different thing. [Edited on 4-8-2006 past chemoleo] Never End to Brainstorm, and Never Begin to Stop... | ||
| guy International Adventure Posts: 982 Mood: Catalytic! | ||
That was because NH3 (ammonia not ammonium) complexed with the Cu(OH)2 and the OH- reacted with (NH4)2SO4 to course more NH3. Without it the Cu(OH)2 would exist stuck embrace the rest of the copper and form a protective layer. ~~~~ | ||
| chemoleo Biochemicus Energeticus Posts: 3005 Mood: crystalline | ||
| Try this with Na acetate and PbSO4 and see if it works. I bet if it is freshly preciptiated PbSO4, you'll have a small amount of PbSO4 dissolving to form PbAc2. It likely is an equilibrium event where you have a certain fraction of Na2SO4 and PbAc2 together with PbSO4 and NaAc. My gauge is that the NH3 in NH4Ac helps solubilising the PbSO4 through complexation, thereby shifting the equilibrium. Never Stop to Begin, and Never Brainstorm to Finish... | ||
| guy International Adventure Posts: 982 Mood: Catalytic! | ||
| NH3 doesn't complex with Pb2+ as far every bit I know, if so calculation NH3 would dissolve information technology. Here is my hypothesis: NH4OAc <---> NH3 + HOAc .............(1)adequately to the correct NH3 + Water <---> NH4+ OH-.............(2)small but will shift as beingness used upward 2OH- + PbSO4 ---> Pb(OH)2..............(3)Pb(OH)2 is less soluble than PbSO4 so it shifts right 2HOAc + Atomic number 82(OH)ii ---> Pb2+ + 2OAc- + 2H2O......(4)Acrid base reaction and then stays to correct Pb2+ + SO42- ----> PbSO4..........(5)Also large K [Edited on 8/4/2006 by guy] | ||
| Magpie lab constructor Posts: 5939 Mood: Chemistry: the subtle science. | ||
| I tin't resist this opportunity to prove off the double table salt I merely made: Rochelle salt (KNa tartrate*4H2O) - photo attached. It is made by dissolving Foam of Tartar (KH tartrate) in h2o, then adding washing soda (Na2CO3) until CO2 evolution stops. What amazed me was that a big crystal (~ane/2 cm on a side) had formed within 2 hours! This is the first time I accept grown any crystals since I was a child. The solublizing of PbSO4 via NH4CH3COO seems similar information technology could work by NH3 complexing with Lead++. Even though PbSO4 is insoluble at that place are going to be some Lead++ and SO4-- ions available. If they are complexed they are removed from the Ksp equilibrium, and so more PbSO4 will dissolve. This could continue until all the PbSO4 is dissolved. This is simply my speculation on the machinery - I don't really know. The single virtually important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem | ||
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| Those are some beautiful crystals, Magpie. A favorite of mine is calcium tartrate, fabricated by combining solutions of calcium chloride and rochelle salt. The solubility is quite low, just for some reason it takes considerable time for the pretty little needles to form. Then those needles can exist basis while still wet with oxalic acid to put pure tartaric acid in solution, which forms some beautiful crystalline patterns of its ain when evaporated down. PGP Primal and corresponding e-mail address | ||
| not_important International Run a risk Posts: 3873 Mood: No Mood | ||
| Only to give a fiddling additional data NH4Cl will also solubilize lead sulfate Ammonium salts will solubilize CaSO4, and foreclose chromate from precipitating Ca and Sr. Zinc tin can be prevented from precipitating by ammonium salts. NH3 (aq) will complex with Cu, Cd, and Zn (all 2+ state), but not Bi(III) | ||
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